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"Anall nathrach, oorfas bethud, dorhiel dienvay"

Date: Jan. 24th, 2008 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tania-c.livejournal.com
Helen Mirren chanting. Oh yes....

Date: Jan. 24th, 2008 05:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serge-lj.livejournal.com
Indeed. I felt very remiss for not including her in my original entry, a situation that is now corrected.
Edited Date: Jan. 24th, 2008 05:18 pm (UTC)

Date: Jan. 24th, 2008 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tania-c.livejournal.com
Helen Mirren is on my list of who I'd like to be when I grow up. My friends and family limit how often I'm allowed to watch The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover.

Date: Jan. 24th, 2008 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serge-lj.livejournal.com
"...The wife of a barbaric crime boss engages in a secretive romance with a gentle bookseller between meals at her husband's restaurant. Food, colour coding, sex, murder, torture and cannibalism are the exotic fare in this beautifully filmed but brutally uncompromising modern fable which has been interpreted as an allegory for Thatcherism..."

Color coding and cannibalism? This movie seems to cover all possible bases. I should tell my wife to add it to our NetFlix queue.

As for your growing up into Helen Mirren... One could think of worse (faaaaaar worse) fates. Heheheh.

Date: Jan. 25th, 2008 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tania-c.livejournal.com
You should have her add it to the queueueueueue. The costumes are by Jean Paul Gautier.

Hey, just because I own and wear Carhartt does not mean I can't appreciate couture.

Date: Jan. 25th, 2008 02:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serge-lj.livejournal.com
If I ask you what Carhartt is, will that reveal on my part an abysmal taste in clothing? (Maybe it will, but that didn't keep me from enjoying British TV series House of Eliott of the early 1990s.)

Date: Jan. 24th, 2008 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com
How often is that?

Date: Jan. 25th, 2008 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tania-c.livejournal.com
They don't let me pick it for movie night more than twice a year. I just love that movie. Actually, I seem to enjoy Peter Greenaway films. They're usually a trifle, um, off kilter one way or another. The Pillow Book has Ewan McGregor with full frontal nudity, and it is a strange, compelling story.

Date: Jan. 25th, 2008 02:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serge-lj.livejournal.com
Twice a year? That's not so bad. Me, I watch At The Earth's Core at least once a year and, had you seen it, you'd think that was once too many. Then again I liked Wing Commander and you mocked me for it. Humph.

Date: Jan. 25th, 2008 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com
I'll have to see that, then.

Date: Jan. 24th, 2008 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kouredios.livejournal.com
It's been too long since I've seen that movie. I think I've got an old taped-off-the-TV version of it somewhere hereabouts...

Date: Jan. 24th, 2008 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serge-lj.livejournal.com
Some things in it would probably have you rolling your eyes, and I'm not just talking about Uther doing the dirty deed with Igraine while he's still wearing his armor. Still, I can appreciate what it was trying to do while others can't and absolutely hatehatehate it. I can lend you the DVD if you want.

One more thing... It's interesting to notice the movie's actors who are well known... Nicol Williamson already had a movie career, but we now have Patrick Stewart, Liam Neeson, Gabriel Byrne and, of course, Helen Mirren.

Date: Jan. 25th, 2008 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kouredios.livejournal.com
Oh, I remember it. It's iconic. But it's been so long that I didn't realize Morgana was Helen Mirren. :) (Though I knew Patrick Stewart immediately, since I was a huge TNG fan as a teen.)

Also, I second The Cook, the Thief, his Wife and her Lover. It's amazing visually, and the story just packs a serious punch.

Date: Jan. 25th, 2008 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serge-lj.livejournal.com
Iconic? So that's what people call it in your part of the world. Heheheh... That being said, did you ever see the miniseries based on Mary Stewart's Merlin books? I wasn't too crazy about it, but it had Sam Neill as Merlin, which made up for Martin Short's acting.

Date: Feb. 1st, 2008 04:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kouredios.livejournal.com
I was never crazy about Mary Stewart's books anyway. MZB spoiled me for any but the most feminist reading of Morgana. I think I taped it, but never watched it.

And yes, iconic, for me as a youngster of the time. Just like Lynch's Dune. :P

Date: Feb. 1st, 2008 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serge-lj.livejournal.com
Speaking of MZB's Avalon... What did you think of the miniseries? I've never read the book, which may be why I kept thinking that the adaptation was missing something. For example, whatever Morgana's own religion was, we were never really told what its tenets were, except that it was a religion for women and by women. I figured that the TV people didn't want to upset Bible thumpers so they cut that out.

One more thing... Do you know who actor James Coburn was? I remember reading an interview with him, where he mentionned MZB's book. It seems like he loved it so much that he had bought the rights and reallyreallyreally wanted to play Merlin.

Date: Feb. 1st, 2008 04:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kouredios.livejournal.com
Another adaptation I haven't seen yet. It's easily gettable, I just haven't. I really enjoyed the books, though. Well, the first one most of all. It's been a while. And, yes...there's probably a lot of religious detail missing. There's a lot of good/icky pagan stuff in the book that I'm sure didn't make it to the movie...

I can picture James Coburn in my head. He'd have made a great Merlin, I think. but I picture him always with a cigar in his mouth, and that would have been a bit incongruous. Heh.
Edited Date: Feb. 1st, 2008 04:36 pm (UTC)

Date: Feb. 1st, 2008 05:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serge-lj.livejournal.com
Great. Now you've got me thinking of Groucho Marx as Merlin.

Date: Jan. 24th, 2008 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fledgist.livejournal.com
I now need to see it again.

Date: Jan. 24th, 2008 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whl.livejournal.com
Actually, I always like Nicol Williamson's performances, and hadn't even realized that was Helen Mirren...

Date: Jan. 24th, 2008 10:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serge-lj.livejournal.com
I liked Williamson's performance a lot too. Almost everybody else was acting as if they were, not in a fantasy movie, but in a legend, which they were. That worked fine against Williamson's Merlin who came off even more as a puppetmaster.